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Brian Rogers ([personal profile] subplotkudzu) wrote2008-06-12 02:43 pm

An observation

4E has now been out for nearly a week, and so far I have one, count them one, comment from anyone on my Friends list about it - [personal profile] drcpunk's comment on how the book lays flat while reading it and she's happy the 3E faux-notebook visual design is gone. 

Is everyone as ambivalent about this new system as I am? Did anyone even buy it? Where's the love, people? Or the hate, for that matter?
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[personal profile] mneme 2008-06-12 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ambivalent, yes. Clearly rushed out -- with fairly significant errata a bare five days after release.

OTOH, looks like fun, and I wanna play it.

Also, I could wish they'd playtested the skill challenge system more -- it's clearly off in several ways (DCs are too high, such that if you follow the rules and don't hand out bonuses like they're going out of style, PCs will fail at 93% of at-level challenges, base system doesn't have enough mechanical interest (no hard "help, defend, or attack full throttle" options like in combat)), and most of the flaws are easily fixable by using a different base.

[identity profile] whswhs.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see any reason to buy it. I stopped buying D&D back when the little tan books were replaced with Basic and Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. I haven't even bought the GURPS Dungeon Fantasy books; dungeon fantasy is just not a genre I have any use for.
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[personal profile] mylescorcoran 2008-06-13 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I've bought it, but I've yet to receive it. Ireland is a long way from the heartland of Amazon's warehouses.

I have sneaked a look at the copy a friend had over lunch, and maybe someone I know has a PDF, possibly, maybe, nudge, etc.

I've been reading the ENWorld discussions and I'm quietly hopeful that it's going to be good. D&D in a very specific dungeon crawling, big fighty, 'splosions and everything sort of way. [livejournal.com profile] mnemex's comments below seem on the money from what I've read.